Prof. Dr. Alexander Düttmann, Philipp Messner, Jorge Peris
26.10.2021, 6pm
As part of the series Thinking Nature, GiG Munich hosted the online discussion between Philipp Messner, Jorge Peris (recently showing their work I feel like Ramses at GiG) and Prof. Dr. Alexander Düttmann (Professor für Philosophische Ästhetik, Kunstphilosophie, Kulturtheorie und Kunsttheorie an der Universität der Künste, Berlin). The discussion took place on zoom on Tuesday evening at 6 pm, the 26th of October.
Jorge Peris, untitled, 2021, octopus skin, 80 x 70 cm
Jorge Peris, untitled, 2021, octopus skin, 80 x 70 cm
Jorge Peris, untitled, 2021, octopus skin, 80 x 70 cm (detail)
Philipp Messner, to be added, 2021, 3d animated tongues, tablets, smartphones, chalkgrid, 240x240cm
Philipp Messner, to be added, 2021, 3d animated tongues, tablets, smartphones, chalkgrid, 240x240cm
Philipp Messner, to be added, 2021, 3d animated tongues, tablets, smartphones, chalkgrid, 240x240cm
Photo credits: Laura Egger (photos 7, 8, 11: Magdalena Wisniowska)
The film ‘Pharaoh’ (Kawalerowicz, 1966) begins, not as one might expect, with an image of the pyramids in the vast Egyptian desert, but with a close-up shot of two scarab beetles battling to push their dung ball across a dry, hard plane. In the film, Ramses does eventually confront the Great Pyramid of Cheops, but even then, we only see what he does, a wall of massive stone stretching upwards and across the screen. As Ramses laments to the High Priest, a thousand years ago Cheops still had the power and resources to build something so enormous, so spectacular. He, Ramses, no longer can. When he sees the pyramid he does not see a grave, but the might of Cheops’s will.
When Philipp Messner and Jorge Peris say, ‘They feel like Ramses’, they too talk about a position of power and its subsequent loss. For me, the figure of Ramses represents what Maurice Merleau-Ponty would call, ‘scientific thinking’, a kind of approach to the world that ‘looks from above’. In his essay, ‘Eye and Mind’ (1960) Merleau-Ponty describes science as something that we impose on the world; as he writes, ‘Science manipulates things and gives up living in them.’ However bright and dazzling its results may be, to science the ‘there is’ of things is lost. This would be the sensible world, its soil, such as it is lived by us and for our body. Merleau-Ponty distinguishes between the body of science, which for him, is a mere information machine, and the actual body, a haunting presence that is always there. ‘I haunt a single, present, and actual Being’.’
Merleau-Ponty’s is a critique of science, his worry, scientific thought’s continual success. When the world is seen only as an object to be operated upon, then science becomes absolute, and if this was further extended to humanity and history, Merleau-Ponty argues we would then enter ‘a nightmare from which there is no awakening’. Yet like Ramses before us, we now stand at science’s ruins. The corona pandemic made sure that no one can claim science’s position as absolute. And with the loss of this absolute position we also lose something else, which is what the work of Messner and Peris show so well. What we lose, is the soil underneath, the hauntings of our and the other’s bodies.
The octopus slowly drying out on the wall has the look of a scientific specimen, pinned up for classification and analysis. Equally, it has the feel of witchcraft, about to be thrown into a bubbling cauldron. We can look at its obscenely exposed body but we cannot get away from its fishy smell. Its exposed body haunts the room it is in. When we look down on the floor below, we see a tongue licking the screen from behind. We see only the pink muscle, as it emerges from the darkness, before coming closer and lapping away at the glass. It too is like a ghost that only appears to us when we stand above, in our assumed position of power.
GiG Munich is excited to present the two-person exhibition ‘I feel like Ramses’ featuring new work by Philipp Messner and Jorge Peris. Together they explore the disappearance of the outside and the expanding inner-world.
Ramses II, the mighty pharaoh, held the mythical position of absolute power, looking down at his works, his land and his people. He was at the center of a cosmic order, all work and production flowing through him. Through their sculptural work, Messner and Peris bring the sensual world, the bestial and the disgusting as close to us as they dare. They are concerned with the process of production as desire, slippery and slimy, always escaping our grasp.
Philipp Messner (born in Bolzano, IT, 1975) lives and works in Munich. Recent exhibitions include eating harmony, Museum im Prediger, Schwäbisch, Gmünd (2021, solo); Welt in Teilen, Kunstverein St.Pauli, DE (2020, group); Dissolved Landscape, Mediafacade, Museion, Bozen, IT (2019, solo); Darkness loves to hide, Kunstraum., München, DE (2019, solo); Open Borders, Biennale Curitiba, BR (2019, group); Da lontano era un isola, Kunsthaus Meran, Merano, IT (2019, solo), Lust der Täuschung, Ludwig Forum Aachen, DE (2019, group); CLOUDS, Neues Museum, Nürnberg, DE (2017, solo).
Jorge Peris (born Alzira, Valencia, 1969) lives and works in El Palmar, Valencia, and Bucharest, Romania. Recent exhibitions include Desembarco en el País de Nunca Jamás, Nicodim Gallery, Los Angeles (2021, solo); Michiel Ceulers and Jorge Peris: Endangered Species, Galeria Nicodim, Bucharest (2020); Dark Man a lomos del Pájaro de Fuego, IVAM Instituto Valenciàno d’Arte Moderna, Valencia (2020, solo); Adam’s Resurrection, Sandwich Gallery, Bucharest, Romania (2019, solo); Al norte de la tormenta, MAXXI Museum, Rome, Italy (2019); Our Lady of the Flowers, Galeria Nicodim, Bucharest (2018).
The exhibition is the next of GiG Munich’s ‘Thinking Nature’ series supported by the Department of Art and Culture, Munich.